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Response to the Jewish Left

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The Children's Hour:

Gopin puts much hope in Obama's engagement with Syria and is looking forward to Obama's presidency.

We must all live in hope and attempt to look forward, but to do so in this manner is in equal parts naive and delusional--dangerously so!

By the way, am I reading this correctly?

Insisting on our "right to exist" is an unrealistic demand -- if the USSR had demanded our recognition of their right to exist, we would have had to accept their occupation of half of Europe.

Is this guy actually saying Israel should not insist on its own right to exist? Is he comparing little Israel to Soviet Russia? Does he live in Israel and even if he does, has he ever really looked at a map? Or am I missing (or misinterpreting) his "point"--whatever that may be?

Gopin believes that "Jews now have power and must learn to use it with restraint." What in God's name have Israel's Jews been doing for the past 30+ years--and particularly since the Oslo Accords?

You identify this Rabbi Mark Gopin as an "expert in crisis management" (whatever that may be). By what actual criteria is he so designated and where has he practiced said "expertise," the Emerald City?

In your summary you say that Gopin's most serious flaw is that "like most of the Jewish left, he misreads Hamas and the Palestinian extremists and projects his own values onto them." This criticism is far too narrow in scope. I'd say the good Rabbi projects his own values and fantasies on to everything in this all too dangerous world in which we must physically live or die. And his most serious flaw is that he has achieved a legitimate platform from which to make such a big noise impacting the life or death of the Jewish State and its millions of Jews.

Carlos, in your conclusions you assert that the actions of the Jewish left are dangerous and must be confronted. I believe that those actions are indeed dangerous in near perfect accord with Rabbi Gopin's words in that both put Israel in a suicidal position.

I for one do not intend to impose on the Jewish State any position that might leave it prone to annihilation while I myself would be in no danger of suffering the same fate. So, when you speak of Hamas and the hideous, evil acts it has done, you rightly say that, "it is indeed a challenge to respond to this level of depravity without losing one's own humanity." To which I counter that in the midst of such depravity when one must then confront the positions of the extreme Jewish left it is impossible to respond to this level of INSANITY! For they hear and see nothing but their own fantasies while all Israel may pay the price in human sacrifice for their depravity.

Yes, he is saying that insisting on a right to exist is an unreasonable demand. I think it might be smarter not to insist on it, but not for his reason. I don't see why we should give the Arabs veto power over it.

Actually, it's even worse than the Emerald City. It's California.

Right now my concern is that Israel will be forced to halt the operation before it is completed. This will only set up an even worse situation for the next round. The stupidity of people like Gopin who do not realize this amazes me.

Re: "he is saying that insisting on a right to exist is an unreasonable demand."
Then let him DROP DEAD!

Re: "The stupidity of people like Gopin who do not realize this amazes me."
I suspect it's not about stupidity though, granted, he's no chess master. This hot shot's brainwashed by the dogma he's been force-fed over a lifetime of indoctrination. However, I'm willing to bet that even if he lives in Israel, should the worst occur, he will have an exit plan well in place. His kind always cause others to suffer the consequences of their actions. And that's what's really unforgivable!